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Post by BurnForGame on Nov 9, 2013 20:38:37 GMT -6
The first time I saw Blizzard Falcon was the first time I decided to build a deck around it. It's just too obvious that I would need such a deck, and this was the first draft:
Total: 41
Monsters: 15
3 Blizzard Falcon 3 Stealth Bird 2 Blackwing - Blizzard the Far North 2 Blackwing - Bora the Spear 1 Blackwing - Shura the Blue Flame 1 Blackwing - Kalut the Moon Shadow 1 Blackwing - Zephyros the Elite 1 Blackwing - Gale the Whirlwind 1 Mist Valley Falcon
Spells: 16
3 Solidarity 3 Harpie's Hunting Ground 3 Swords of Revealing Light 3 Mystical Space Typhoon 1 Allure of Darkness 1 Terraforming 1 Dark Hole 1 Swallow's Nest
Traps: 10
3 Call of the Haunted (great with Blizzard Falcon) 3 Icarus Attack (great for setting up the above) 2 Pinpoint Guard 1 Black Thunder 1 Cursed Seal of the Forbidden Spell
Blizzard Falcon is a flying tool of frozen Burn, but I back it up anyway, with Stealth Bird and Black Thunder. Call of the Haunted and Pinpoint Guard give me more uses for fallen Falcons, and Swords gives me a use for Mist Valley Falcon. Also, I can use Mist Valley Falcon to return Blizzard Falcon to the hand for a later reuse of its effect. That's teamwork!
Note that Hunting Ground puts Falcon online, but is also a way to replace other fields. That can't be overlooked...
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Post by Ursiel on Nov 9, 2013 22:11:23 GMT -6
Have you ever gotten around to trying a Harpie variant?
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Post by BurnForGame on Nov 10, 2013 17:44:31 GMT -6
I built it, but I didn't like the way it looked. It would have needed Field Barrier to keep Harpie swarms from nuking my backrow, but that's not a card I felt there was room for. That did just give me an absoltely wicked idea for a deck to take advantage of Ground's mandatory destruction, though.
Anyway, I had Reborn in the deck list for some reason, so I've just corrected that.
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Post by Ursiel on Nov 10, 2013 17:54:23 GMT -6
Now, I must ask since you love re-using Blizzard (the main reason for the deck after all): Have you thought about Dragunity Darkspear?
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Post by BurnForGame on Nov 10, 2013 18:06:18 GMT -6
I have not, but I think it should be here now. I could bring one in over Cursed Seal, and think about dropping a Blackwing to add another. Thanks! I never even knew Darkspear's effect, but it's exactly what I can use here!
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Post by Ursiel on Nov 10, 2013 18:10:32 GMT -6
lol awesome.
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Post by BurnForGame on Nov 10, 2013 18:32:00 GMT -6
I also like that it can give me Stealth Bird if I have Swords up without an ATK booster. I removed Seal and Bora for a pair of Darkspear.
EDIT: There's a reason I didn't think of Darkspear. It's a Dragon, nuking my Solidarity. That won't do. I'm undoing these changes now.
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Post by vandesdelca70 on Nov 11, 2013 13:18:02 GMT -6
I don't feel like the blackwings really do anything to help the purpose of the deck? Especially if you are not running the cards that actually make blackwings good. But then again I guess there might not really be a better winged beast archetype.
Anyways I think there is an inherent problem with solidarity based decks in the current game because the type of decks you have to deal with in the current game don't really care about your 2000-2600 monsters. The decks that specialize in dropping big monsters are dropping things bigger than that, so the solidarity becomes useless against them. Maybe there is another better way of consistently boosting Falcon, which would create a ton of a new options for the deck, but then again maybe their isn't I haven't looked deeply into efficient ways to boost a creatures strength.
Also I don't see any reason not to run Seal of Orichalcos in this. It just seems like a better solidarity to me, but that could just be because I don't like the blackwing part of the deck.
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Post by Ursiel on Nov 11, 2013 17:49:32 GMT -6
Completely forgot your semi-obsession with Solidarity.
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Post by BurnForGame on Nov 12, 2013 10:15:37 GMT -6
vandesdelca70: I understand what you're going for there, but that's not really the only reason the Blackwings are in there. This needed Winged Beasts to keep Solidarity going, and between the BWs and their Synchros, that was the best way to fill out my Extra as well. Other Winged Beasts are lacking in usefulness. Harpies wouldn't do anything here, and the non-archetype ones (Shield Wing, Aurora Wing, Winged Sage Falcos, etc.) just wouldn't give me anything I need. At least BWs allow me to run Allure and Black Thunder. I do suppose that adding a Sirocco wouldn't be the worst idea to add to my attack force, though. (My side deck isn't the focus by any means, but I do currently side into more focused BWs.) That is also a reason why The Seal is not in here. Cards like Ice Beast Zerofyne allow me to bridge that gap between stronger monsters and my own, and losing my free access to that would cost me games. This deck doesn't really aim to attack all that much anyway, but when it does, it's often from a boosted BW Synchro or Zerofyne. After all, Zerofyne's effect takes advantage of Solidarity (and don't forget that multiples stack on their own) along with Hunting Ground, Swords and Call of the Haunted staying face-up to give it even more ATK. Besides, The Seal is a Field. Hunting Ground already fills that role. If I am to remove Solidarity, it can only be with another Continuous card (preferably a Spell) that will always boost Falcon, because that's what it achieves in this deck. It's another face-up card for Zerofyne, and I know that whenever I have Solidarity plus a monster in the grave, its effect will be active for Falcon as well. I need something with that total reliability, otherwise Solidarity will have to stay. I know that Solidarity isn't what it could have been without nonsense like the Xyz-and-Synchro-ruined state of the game, but it is working in this deck that only occasionally wants to attack and only needs to use the card for a totally different effect. I just checked the Continuous Spell lineup yet again, and there's still nothing out there that matches what I'm getting out of it. I do appreciate the input, though. This is a tough concept to make efficient without using more risky effects, such as Equip cards and other monster effects, to boost Falcon. Ursiel: This actually isn't a deck built from that appreciation I have for Solidarity. It's just that it's one of the two best cards I've seen for the job, and I'm using both here.
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Post by Ursiel on Nov 12, 2013 10:28:12 GMT -6
Maybe not, but it is there. I've seen the number of decks you have used that in too, so I felt obligated to call it a semi-obsession.
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Post by Yoh Komori on Nov 12, 2013 21:29:13 GMT -6
could you trade solidarity for something like deck lockdown, or burden of the mighty(normally hate that card, but zero makes it passable)?
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Post by vandesdelca70 on Nov 12, 2013 23:38:25 GMT -6
Deck Lockdown and Burden of hte Mighty both don't change the attack power of his own Snow Falcon, that's the whole point.
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Post by BurnForGame on Nov 13, 2013 13:05:59 GMT -6
Deck Lockdown and Burden of hte Mighty both don't change the attack power of his own Snow Falcon, that's the whole point. ^This is exactly it. I would need another card that will be able to boost a Falcon the second I draw it. Even Traps won't work in this case because I would need to be able to play the card right when it's drawn in order for it to match up to Solidarity. It has to be able to get an in-hand Falcon online instantly, and Solidarity's the best Continuous card that does that. I really feel it's going to stay, and I don't have a problem with that.
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Post by Ursiel on Nov 13, 2013 14:21:03 GMT -6
Only thing I can think to do is double the number of Field spells by using a set of Mountain too.
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