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Post by bystander on Feb 12, 2014 14:02:34 GMT -6
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Post by JerkJerk on Feb 13, 2014 1:47:16 GMT -6
Ambush tries way to hard to be good. As much as Konami wants to make people play Extra Deckless Monarchs, no good player is willingly going to give up a 15 card accessable toolbox for widespread Monster negation.
Oh yes, I'll temporarily give it up for searching 1 for 1 tributes which disrupt better than most cards. Sure, if it is ideal, I'll play something makes every Monarch I drop have some sort of invulnerability. But no Extra deck... at all? For a Continuous Trap?
This is my biggest pet peeve with Konami. They actually think the control the Meta, or have a say on how it works. They don't. They print cards, and the players use older cards because the power creep is too low on new decks. Outside of Mermail and Dragon Rulers, how many decks went straight from first release to Tier 1 in the last 2 years? Maybe Wind-Ups. Perhaps Geargia if it won more than one YCS before emerging three years later as a hybrid engine card counting deck that plays against 4 other decks 1+ years old.
You know, I heard this format was supposed to be Noble Knights and Bujins fighting for top spot. Two decks that sit on single monsters that can't function without entire decks propping said cards on field. Against Fire Fist the search happy destruction deck? Mermails the swarm? Prophecy the do everything at asinine levels of ease and fluency? Last format it was also supposed to be Noble Knights. How long does it take before the card designers hire good or experienced players to come up with the non anime cards?
Sorry, had to rant.
Now, Thesty based on that text is good. Carry on you Mega sons a bitches.
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Post by Shadwen on Feb 13, 2014 7:24:28 GMT -6
im actually looking at redoing chaos monarchs or a monarch spam variant..if i can figure out how without the treeborn engine.
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Post by bystander on Feb 13, 2014 8:41:54 GMT -6
im actually looking at redoing chaos monarchs or a monarch spam variant..if i can figure out how without the treeborn engine. I am using apprentice mage engine with Jetser Confit. That is in my Monarch deck that doesn't use the Extra deck. It works fine, you can get a lot of things done with a deck like this. FYI Return of the Moarchs and March of the Monarchs also stop you from using cards in your Extra deck.
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Post by Ursiel on Feb 13, 2014 11:19:45 GMT -6
I would have been happier with discarding 2 from opponent's hand over the ability to look and choose 1. As it stands now though I'd want to make sure I've as many Mind Crush as I can possibly play to go along with MThestalos. Maybe go so far as Drop Off and Drastic Drop Off as well.
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Post by bystander on Feb 13, 2014 13:28:01 GMT -6
I would have been happier with discarding 2 from opponent's hand over the ability to look and choose 1. As it stands now though I'd want to make sure I've as many Mind Crush as I can possibly play to go along with MThestalos. Maybe go so far as Drop Off and Drastic Drop Off as well. My exact thoughts when I saw his effect. Dragged down to the grave would be awesome next to this card too.
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Post by captainhowdy on Feb 13, 2014 14:17:22 GMT -6
I seriously hope Caius gets a mega monarch form, that would be amazing
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Post by bystander on Feb 14, 2014 8:56:44 GMT -6
I seriously hope Caius gets a mega monarch form, that would be amazing Sooner or later he will But right now it seems like they are releasing the megas in the same order as the Elemental Lords. Which means Raiza should be next, but after that who knows who is coming.
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Post by Ursiel on Feb 14, 2014 9:43:02 GMT -6
Mega Raiza will be pretty mean itself too.
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Post by bystander on Feb 14, 2014 9:45:25 GMT -6
Double jamming hells yeah. Can't figure the other effect for wind tribute though.
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Post by Yoh Komori on Feb 15, 2014 13:41:12 GMT -6
I seriously hope Caius gets a mega monarch form, that would be amazing Sooner or later he will But right now it seems like they are releasing the megas in the same order as the Elemental Lords. Which means Raiza should be next, but after that who knows who is coming. thats technically untrue, they skipped zaborg (emperor of lightning does not effing count even if he is technically a better mega than zabby could ask for) and proceeeded straight to mobuis, so either they now do not consider him a monarch (sorry but he is, even if you konami arseholes don't now like that you made him lv5 first.) or they are saving him for last/later so we can get a "raigeki" of sorts.
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Post by bystander on Feb 15, 2014 19:22:40 GMT -6
Sooner or later he will But right now it seems like they are releasing the megas in the same order as the Elemental Lords. Which means Raiza should be next, but after that who knows who is coming. thats technically untrue, they skipped zaborg (emperor of lightning does not effing count even if he is technically a better mega than zabby could ask for) and proceeeded straight to mobuis, so either they now do not consider him a monarch (sorry but he is, even if you konami arseholes don't now like that you made him lv5 first.) or they are saving him for last/later so we can get a "raigeki" of sorts. I know they skipped Zaborg, but a lot of players seemed to moved onto other monarch effects. Monster destruction has a way of being blocked nowadays. Look @ Zenmaines, Maestroke, Number 49, and Number 101. Stardust also seems to be getting a lot of play too.
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Post by Ursiel on Feb 16, 2014 9:36:16 GMT -6
And they haven't skipped Zaborg, they just haven't done them yet. Realizing the Mega Monarchs in the same order as they did the Elemental Lords kind of guarantees that we wouldn't see Zaborg yet since there is no light ELord, or Dark ELord to give us an idea for Mega Caius' release either. For all we know they could do Raiza in the first Arc-V set and then both Zaborg and Caius in the second. We may also never see megas for either of those. edit- Wild thought hit right after I posted this. There is an update for upcoming releases- The structure could actually be a Monarch deck since that was popular thanks to D-Heros in the GX Era.
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Post by bystander on Feb 16, 2014 12:25:44 GMT -6
Actually I was rethinking the GX championships decks:
Monarchs/LaDD/PC GB Turbo Dark LS
These were all the championship decks of the GX era.
I just don't want a Monarch structure, cause I know we will wind up getting Mega Zaborg and/or Mega Caius in that as ultras and I want them all as Secrets. This would really piss me off to no end.
Looking over that little article post closely there is another Deluxe Edition for Prio!!! Seems like Konami will be getting rid of the SE now.
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Post by Ursiel on Feb 17, 2014 8:48:27 GMT -6
I think its a bad move, but knew you would like the thing on the DE.
Infernity was a Championship level deck at the end of the GX era too. But a good portion of those Dark Turbo decks you speak of were all DAD variants, and at this time cannot be done remotely similar to their best incarnations. Monarchs can easily look similar to what they once were.
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