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Post by Shadwen on Nov 1, 2013 23:03:47 GMT -6
Tier 1:
Tier 2:
Tier 3:
Tier 4:
Lets here it!
Please Provide
Deck Name (Version): Tier: Why:
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Post by necromancer15 on Nov 2, 2013 11:03:58 GMT -6
Deck Name (Version): Dragon Ruler (Pure), Dragunity Ruler Tier: 1 Why: Clearly, the most dominant deck of the format
Deck Name (Version): Spellbooks Tier: 2 Why: On paper a close second deck
Deck Name (Version): Evilswarm Tier: 2 Why: A very good dragon matchup and nice meta call due to it being almost all dragons
Deck Name (Version): Constellar Tier: 2 Why: Good dragon and evilswarm matchup
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Post by Yoh Komori on Nov 4, 2013 2:58:45 GMT -6
I think "4" should be renamed "rogue" since tier's 1-3 can be more or less discerned with a little analyzing of the data, and thought.However, some decks don't fit that distinction; case in point: Nolan's barrier "stun" deck.
Rogue is heavily player dependent, usually not on the radar at all in terms of competitive play, and while is not seen before hand as a threat, in the hindsight of it's emergence, it tends to be easily rationalized. It can be cmparable to any of the three tiers, but tends to vary match to match, or player to player.
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Post by Ursiel on Nov 4, 2013 11:17:20 GMT -6
Deck Name (Version): Fire Fists Tier: 3 Why: They seem to have fallen from grace and have been pushed aside by the speed/strength of Rulers, and again by the consistency and anti-Ruler abilities of Constellars/Evilswarms.
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Post by ライトロード on Nov 5, 2013 15:39:09 GMT -6
It is really difficult to classify tier this format. Tier 1, at this time, is Dragon Rulers (and their competitive variants). Tier 2 is anything that tops but doesn't win as frequently as Tier 1, and everything else that is remotely competitive. Tier 3 is composed of the fun decks that can't really compete (like Destiny Board).
Rogue is too general of a term because it encompasses Tier 2 and Tier 3.
Also, just for the record, Tier 0 is a game state, not an actual tier. Tier 0 is when a single deck is completely dominating the meta. It is in my belief, that we are in such conditions now.
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Post by Yoh Komori on Nov 6, 2013 22:22:11 GMT -6
It is really difficult to classify tier this format. Tier 1, at this time, is Dragon Rulers (and their competitive variants). Tier 2 is anything that tops but doesn't win as frequently as Tier 1, and everything else that is remotely competitive. Tier 3 is composed of the fun decks that can't really compete (like Destiny Board). Rogue is too general of a term because it encompasses Tier 2 and Tier 3. Also, just for the record, Tier 0 is a game state, not an actual tier. Tier 0 is when a single deck is completely dominating the meta. It is in my belief, that we are in such conditions now. No, tier 0 is a far narrower field. Yes, only dragons are top right now (with prophecy #2 being debatable), but there are probably 3 variants atleast with strength to compete for #1 slot. tier zero is the mass driver frogs format, or the last format with tribe infecting virus legal or the first chimeriatech format before cyber dragon's limit. We are CLOSE but not in that game state, as there still is diversity and not a solidified "number 1 deck" list.
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Post by ライトロード on Nov 6, 2013 22:45:20 GMT -6
It is really difficult to classify tier this format. Tier 1, at this time, is Dragon Rulers (and their competitive variants). Tier 2 is anything that tops but doesn't win as frequently as Tier 1, and everything else that is remotely competitive. Tier 3 is composed of the fun decks that can't really compete (like Destiny Board). Rogue is too general of a term because it encompasses Tier 2 and Tier 3. Also, just for the record, Tier 0 is a game state, not an actual tier. Tier 0 is when a single deck is completely dominating the meta. It is in my belief, that we are in such conditions now. No, tier 0 is a far narrower field. Yes, only dragons are top right now (with prophecy #2 being debatable), but there are probably 3 variants atleast with strength to compete for #1 slot. tier zero is the mass driver frogs format, or the last format with tribe infecting virus legal or the first chimeriatech format before cyber dragon's limit. We are CLOSE but not in that game state, as there still is diversity and not a solidified "number 1 deck" list. I have to disagree with you on this one, Dawson. The Frog OTK format was when X-Sabers, and Gladiator Beasts saw a great deal of play while Infernity was invited to the party, but sat in the corner. This Dragon format is most like the Tele-Dad format. One archetype (albeit in 2-3 forms), completely overshadowing the rest of the meta.
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Post by Yoh Komori on Nov 6, 2013 22:48:38 GMT -6
No, tier 0 is a far narrower field. Yes, only dragons are top right now (with prophecy #2 being debatable), but there are probably 3 variants atleast with strength to compete for #1 slot. tier zero is the mass driver frogs format, or the last format with tribe infecting virus legal or the first chimeriatech format before cyber dragon's limit. We are CLOSE but not in that game state, as there still is diversity and not a solidified "number 1 deck" list. I have to disagree with you on this one, Dawson. The Frog OTK format was when X-Sabers, and Gladiator Beasts saw a great deal of play while Infernity was invited to the party, but sat in the corner. This Dragon format is most like the Tele-Dad format. One archetype (albeit in 2-3 forms), completely overshadowing the rest of the meta. tier 0 formats are 1 deck, 1 way, being the only way to win. this format has 2-3 options in dragons and one can argue prophecy has a shot too. thats not a 1 deck format.
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Post by ライトロード on Nov 6, 2013 22:50:50 GMT -6
I have to disagree with you on this one, Dawson. The Frog OTK format was when X-Sabers, and Gladiator Beasts saw a great deal of play while Infernity was invited to the party, but sat in the corner. This Dragon format is most like the Tele-Dad format. One archetype (albeit in 2-3 forms), completely overshadowing the rest of the meta. tier 0 formats are 1 deck, 1 way, being the only way to win. this format has 2-3 options in dragons and one can argue prophecy has a shot too. thats not a 1 deck format. Prophecy against any of the dragon variants is an uphill struggle unless you open perfectly.
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Post by Yoh Komori on Nov 6, 2013 23:09:17 GMT -6
tier 0 formats are 1 deck, 1 way, being the only way to win. this format has 2-3 options in dragons and one can argue prophecy has a shot too. thats not a 1 deck format. Prophecy against any of the dragon variants is an uphill struggle unless you open perfectly. and there we go, proof from your keystrokes, that this is not a 1 deck format, even if the winning decks have many similar attributes and run the same core theme. It's not a tier 0 format if there is variations on the top deck, that still count as top deck (dragunity ruler, plant ruler, blue-eyes ruler, ect....it's all dragons, but you can run them differently and still be considered tier 1).
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Post by Ursiel on Nov 7, 2013 10:30:36 GMT -6
The Tele-DAD/Return format was one of the most tier 0 events. There was no variation, there was no room for other decks, it was literally run this build or lose. Mass Driver OTK was a nuisance but was handled, as was Demise OTK. They were powerful decks but never hit a tier 0 status.
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Post by Silver on Nov 7, 2013 15:04:11 GMT -6
Tier 0: Ancient Grizzled Trent: The Elder God of the Eternal Forest - Turbo
Tier 1: Decks that are piloted by consistent players and are very popular, thus top events very frequently.
Tier 2: Decks that are piloted by fewer players, but still have enough of a following to top occasionally.
Tier 3: Decks that players are scared to take to qualifiers. Often used by more casual players.
Tier 4: Joke decks, and those that very few people play.
What's cool about the tier system is that nobody actually agrees on what it means.
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Post by ライトロード on Nov 7, 2013 15:47:35 GMT -6
There is no tier 4. How many times must I point this out?
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Post by Ursiel on Nov 7, 2013 16:49:54 GMT -6
Probably as often as someone brings it up.
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Post by JerkJerk on Nov 7, 2013 18:44:20 GMT -6
Probably as often as someone brings it up. More than that, actually.
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