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Post by Yoh Komori on Nov 27, 2013 10:42:54 GMT -6
No school, like old school. I had a look into those suggestions you posted and I remember Bright Star Dragon, and I see how it abuses Maiden's effect, same with Risebell the Star Adjuster. I gladly dropped the Luster Dragon's for Bright Star, and by dropping both riders, and a copy of WSOL & MwEoB I was able to get Risebell the Star Adjuster and a copy of Krebons in, also dropping the Monster count to 21. I was able to add an extra Trade-In, as well as E. Teleport, CED, and D. Prison. Now here's where it's going south. I couldn't get Darkstorm in without dropping required cards or putting the Deck count over 40. Also I couldn't drop Meteor Dragon or REBD due to the fact that REBD is my only access to Stardust Dragon without using situational combos. I eneded up siding Chalice for Teleport because of all the Maiden abuse Risebell and Bright Star have. I couldn't find a place in the Extra Deck for them so I sided Star Eater, LtSD, and QDJ. So I currently stand: 3x Blue-Eyes White Dragon Flamvell Guard Meteor Dragon Red-Eyes B. Dragon Blue-Eyes Shining Dragon 2x Bright Star Dragon Divine Dragon Apocralyph Honest Krebons 2x Maiden with Eyes of Blue Red-Eyes Darkness Metal Dragon 2x Red-Eyes Wyvern 2x Risebell the Star Adjuster 2x The White Stone of Legend 2x Dragon Shrine 2x Dragon's Mirror 2x Emergency Teleport One for One 2x Silver's Cry 3x Trade-In Call of the Haunted 2x Champion's Vigilance Compulsory Eveacuation Device 2x Dimensional Prison Solemn Warning Extra Deck Blue-Eyes Ultimate Dragon Five-Headed Dragon Meteor B. Dragon Ally of Justice Catastor 3x Azure-Eyes Silver Dragon Black Rose Dragon Stardust Dragon T.G. Hyper Librarian 2x Number 9: Dyson Sphere 3x Thunder End Dragon Side Deck 2x D.D. Crow 2x Effect Veiler Star Eater Leviair the Sea Dragon Queen Dragun Djinn 2x Forbidden Chalic 2x Pot of Duality/Dichomoty 2x Chain Dissappearence 2x Shadow-Imprisoning Mirror I am gonna give the other build a shot first before considering switching to this, but under the circumstances I do like what some of this new stuff has to offer. Darkstorm is more a personal tech choice of mine as I really like having an in house heavy storm tanks to silver's cry and ravine(running darkstorm is why I asked you to bump ravine to 3 actually). Hope you like how the changes play.
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Post by WhiteLightning1 on Nov 27, 2013 11:52:36 GMT -6
Hmmmm. On that note about Darkstorm Dragon I'm gonna have to do some more thinking into this deck. I may have to drop the Psychic aspect to the Deck is I'm gonna get this to work, and I'm gonna have to rework the Spells if I'm gonna use Dragon Ravine, I'll have a look over my Dragunitics build to see if I can find some ideas.
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Post by WhiteLightning1 on Nov 28, 2013 15:52:18 GMT -6
I've managed to get Darkstorm Dragon into the Deck, and right now the Monster selection is acceptable. I put the 2 Luster Dragon's back in because I need LV4 Normals for quick access to Synchro material through Silver's Cry and AESD, and like I said before I've kept REBD because he's my only access to Stardust Dragon.
I'm still having some trouble with the S/T's. If I have 3 copies of Dragon Ravine I can't get the D. Prisons into the Deck without going over 40. I can either drop a WSOL and a Dragon Shrine, or Drop a WSOL and have just 2 Dragon Ravine's.
3x Blue-Eyes White Dragon Flamvell Guard 2x Luster Dragon Meteor Dragon Red-Eyes B. Dragon Blue-Eyes Shining Dragon 2x Bright Star Dragon Darkstorm Dragon Divine Dragon Apocralyph Honest 2x Maiden with Eyes of Blue Red-Eyes Darkness Metal Dragon 2x Red-Eyes Wyvern 3x The White Stone of Legend
2x Dragon Shrine 2x Dragon's Mirror One for One 2x Silver's Cry 3x Trade-In
Call of the Haunted 2x Champion's Vigilance Compulsory Evacuation Device Solemn Warning
Extra Deck
Blue-Eyes Ultimate Dragon Five-Headed Dragon Meteor B. Dragon Ally of Justice Catastor 3x Azure-Eyes Silver Dragon Black Rose Dragon Stardust Dragon T.G. Hyper Librarian 2x Number 9: Dyson Sphere 3x Thunder End Dragon
Side Deck
2x D.D. Crow 2x Effect Veiler Star Eater Leviair the Sea Dragon Queen Dragun Djinn 2x Forbidden Chalice 2x Pot of Duality/Dichomoty 2x Chain Dissappearence 2x Shadow-Imprisoning Mirror
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Post by Ursiel on Nov 29, 2013 10:50:32 GMT -6
I think you forgot to put in the 3 Ravine in your list since its sitting at 37 cards right now.
Otherwise I could see you drop 1 WSoL and 1 Trade-In. You have 4 level 8s for Trade-In anyway and a good number of those will hit grave through Shrine.
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Post by WhiteLightning1 on Nov 29, 2013 15:03:02 GMT -6
I left the list at 37 because I didn't know what to do about the Dragon Ravine's, because I'm having trouble deciding what to take out for the D. Prisons.
Now that you mention it I could drop a copy of Trade-In, I was originally only going to have it at 2. I know I could easily get a BEWD to my hand through Dragon Shrine if I send a Normal plus a WSoL, so using him for Trade-In is not a problem.
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Post by WhiteLightning1 on Dec 1, 2013 18:13:51 GMT -6
After giving it some consideration I've decided to go over this deck again because really and truly the way I'm going about it now just isn't me. I prefer using Fusion and Old Meta than the stuff I'm trying to put into the Deck right now. However I may (emphasise the word may) have found a way to use this Deck and it's strategies the way I used to before Future Fusion was banned.
With a little help from Dragon Shrine I can send Divine Dragon Ragnarok to the Graveyard along with TWSOL to get BEWD to my hand. This may not be as fast as Future Fusion was but it helps me set up King Dragun, Prime Material Dragon, and REDMD defences faster. King of the Swamp and Debris Dragon are around to get Polymerization to my hand, help summon certain Fusions, and Nuke the field with a Black Rose Synchro.
3x Blue-Eyes White Dragon 2x Divine Dragon Ragnarok Blue-Eyes Shining Dragon Darkstorm Dragon 2x Debris Dragon 2x Divine Dragon Apocralyph 2x King of the Swamp 2x Maiden with Eyes of Blue Prime Material Dragon Red-Eyes Darkness Metal Dragon 2x Red-Eyes Wyvern 3x The White Stone of Legend
Burial from a Different Dimension De-Fusion 3x Dragon Shrine 3x Dragon's Mirror 2x Polymerization
2x Champion's Vigilance 2x Fiendish Chain 3x Royal Decree Solemn Warning
Extra Deck
2x Blue-Eyes Ultimate Dragon Dragon Master Knight Five-Headed Dragon 3x King Dragun 3x Azure-Eyes Silver Dragon 2x Black Rose Dragon 3x Thunder End Dragon
With a little help from Apocralyph I can recycle REDMD and banish Apocralyph to summon him, then with REDMD's effect I can bring his partner in crime Prime Material Dragon into the fray. BFADD is there to recycle cards used for Dragon's Mirror, and De-Fusion helps with my favourite OTK. The Continuous Traps I have help fuel Darkstorm Dragon's effect as well as shut down my opponent's Traps and Effects.
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Post by Ursiel on Dec 1, 2013 20:38:34 GMT -6
I see the idea here. Quick question I have is- Are 3 WSoL really needed? Odds are you will draw into 1 of the BEWD before you can send all 3 of them to the grave.
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Post by WhiteLightning1 on Dec 1, 2013 21:48:54 GMT -6
That is a true point and I did have that predicament in the previous build, either I drew a WSoL or a BEWD before playing Future Fusion. On the contrary though if I am to draw a BEWD early on that's fine, in the case of an early or leftover WSoL, I can use it as a discard cost for cards such as Divine Dragon Apocralyph or Prime Material Dragon.
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Post by Ursiel on Dec 2, 2013 8:20:39 GMT -6
The same could be said of using a higher utility card over the 3rd WSoL. But if you feel its better with the 3rd, go for it.
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Post by WhiteLightning1 on Dec 2, 2013 18:39:25 GMT -6
For now I will stick with the 3rd WSol because I can't think of anything else to go with other than a 2nd Apocralyph for extra recycling. However from previous experience the majority of the time I need all 3 WSol because if I don't use the 3rd 1 by stroke of luck I end up not drawing the 3rd BEWD and it ends up costing me the Duel.
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Post by WhiteLightning1 on Mar 25, 2014 20:35:48 GMT -6
The Roar of the Blue-Eyes White Dragon has not been heard for some time, and TBH was not being heard with the strategies I was creating. The problem is that RotBEWD is a deck that focuses on getting the 3 BEWD's to my hand and then fuse them with Polymerization, but by using strategies to use BEWD as Synchro or Xyz material were'nt working. However I've now built a deck with cards that allow me to get TWSOL to the grave faster or to the field as Synchro material, I've also added in cards that give me faster access to Fusion material. The Extra Deck is not quite finished because there are a couple of other Fusion and Synchro monsters I can throw in.
3x Blue-Eyes White Dragon 2x Divine Dragon Ragnarok Red-Eyes B. Dragon (easily summoned with Tefnuit) Blue-Eyes Shining Dragon 2x Darkflare Dragon (sends dragons I want to the grave) 2x Dragunity Tribus (sends TWSOL to the grave) 2x Hieratic Dragon of Tefnuit (easily summoned, tribute fodder for Darkflare and Lightpulsar, easy access to REBD and Ragnarok) 3x King of the Swamp (easy access to Polymerizaion and King Dragun) 2x Lightpulsar Dragon Red-Eyes Darkness Metal Dragon 3x The White Stone of Legend
Burial from a Different Dimension (gets back cards banished by me or opponent) De-Fusion (part of OTK strategy) 3x Dragon's Mirror Foolish Burial One for One 3x Polymerization (using 3 allows me to send KOTS to the grave immediately)
2x Fiendish Chain 2x Icarus Attack (use in combo with Dragunity Tribus) 3x Royal Decree Solemn Warning
Extra Deck
2x Blue-Eyes Ultimate Dragon Dragon Master Knight 2x Five-Headed Dragon 3x King Dragun 2x Black Rose Dragon
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Post by bystander on Mar 25, 2014 22:24:39 GMT -6
Deck looks tight enough.
Ever consider Divine Dragon Apocralpyh? It discards cards to the grave and recycles another to your hand.
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Post by WhiteLightning1 on Mar 26, 2014 6:05:06 GMT -6
Don't get me wrong, Divine Dragon Apocralyph did cross my mind whilst building this Deck because with it I can carry on recycling just 1 TWSOL and adding BEWD to my hand, and banish him for REDMD. However I doubt I'd be able to keep him on the field long enough to continuously recycle TWSOL, also I'd rather use cards that can send TWSOL directly to the graveyard like I used to do with Future Fusion.
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Post by bystander on Mar 26, 2014 10:18:39 GMT -6
Can also get REDMD back form the grave, and a path to get him back on the field.
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Post by Yoh Komori on Mar 26, 2014 11:00:26 GMT -6
Have you looked at my dragon deck? I think castle of dragon souls and dragoncarnation could be of use to you.
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