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Post by cardtheorist on Jun 18, 2014 17:00:06 GMT -6
i.imgur.com/VDLgUCI.png Basically, if my opponents attack, they lose. I use lava golem/queen to get rid of big threats and do burn damage. If they attack, I get my effects off. Ancient Forest is good, as it kills stuff off. Decree would hurt. But overall, it works well. Needs draw power, I'm thinking maybe a Grand Mole would be nice here.
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Post by Drillwarrior on Jun 18, 2014 17:10:26 GMT -6
Could you add image tags around that?
Does your deck do anything against Burn/Exodia/Countdown (Alt Win Condition decks)
Also seems like it could be incredibly easy to outplay this deck through careful use of MST/Exciton/etc.
Since you're running a "judo" deck. (Reflecting attacks back) I'd cut Mirror Force for Dimensional Prison; triggering Ice Hand is nasty. And your only card that can negate that is Solemn Warning.
Edit: Post 1,500.
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Post by Shadwen on Jun 18, 2014 18:05:35 GMT -6
this looks like a new version of my old Pain deck.
also edited to add the image.
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Post by cardtheorist on Jun 18, 2014 22:19:25 GMT -6
Could you add image tags around that? Does your deck do anything against Burn/Exodia/Countdown (Alt Win Condition decks) Also seems like it could be incredibly easy to outplay this deck through careful use of MST/Exciton/etc. Since you're running a "judo" deck. (Reflecting attacks back) I'd cut Mirror Force for Dimensional Prison; triggering Ice Hand is nasty. And your only card that can negate that is Solemn Warning. Edit: Post 1,500. First off, thanks Shad for making the image come up. Correct me if I'm wrong, but is <img> what I have to put on the ends of the link to make it come up? Sorry for the dumb question. I'm thinking this would be bad against exodia, and I've never come across a final countdown. I could use golem against it maybe... MST wouldn't be too much of a problem, as it would only get a few things; I don't mind if they kill forest at all. As for Exciton, I think It would only be dangerous early-game, as They generally summon something else early, and I spend my cards negating those attacks for huge damage, with no card reduction for the opponent, so it nullifies it, making Exciton unable to activate its effect. I have 3 Black Horn and 3 Fiendish for that, it generally works well. As for Hands, I have Golem and Queen- It can basically stop anything. It won't trigger the Hands. They are stupidly good in the current format. Nice tip on the D prisons, I'm adding them, thank you! EDIT: Mirror force works fine. I just annihilated a HAT deck, he used all the HAT tricks he could, hands, traptrix, artifacts. He ragequit, lol, he could do nothing to me. Royal decree would hurt though, unless I use Bribe. A synchro deck lost to it as well, it works good. I took out WMC though, added grand mole. |
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Post by ragda on Jun 19, 2014 1:53:57 GMT -6
The tags on this board use square brackets. So you'll need [ img ]link[ /img ] (without the spaces).
If you're considering Dark Bribe, I'd suggest Wiretap first. Keeping the traps out of the grave can stymie the re-use of Breakthrough Skill and Skill Prisoner, and by avoiding their destruction, you also don't have to worry about Artifact Sanctum's second effect.
I know the consistency of Pot of Duality isn't something that can be easily dismissed, but considering the function of the deck, wouldn't it hurt the surprise factor?
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Post by cardtheorist on Jun 19, 2014 10:32:23 GMT -6
The tags on this board use square brackets. So you'll need [ img ]link[ /img ] (without the spaces). If you're considering Dark Bribe, I'd suggest Wiretap first. Keeping the traps out of the grave can stymie the re-use of Breakthrough Skill and Skill Prisoner, and by avoiding their destruction, you also don't have to worry about Artifact Sanctum's second effect. I know the consistency of Pot of Duality isn't something that can be easily dismissed, but considering the function of the deck, wouldn't it hurt the surprise factor? Thank you about the img tags, I'll be using that! Just a suggestion, but maybe there should be a sticky somewhere about it, as well as other things for tags; a tag sticky. I run a stall deck, and Bribe worked well there- but now that you mention Wiretap, I realize that Magic cards aren't much of a problem at all. Wiretap it is, thank you! Yeah, PoD also stopped my Golem and Queen coming out that turn. But as for the surprise factor...hmm...I can win by the opp attacking, or if they don't, use Golem. A win-win. But It could be beneficial to take them out, I'll experiment with that. Thank you! |
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Post by Drillwarrior on Jun 19, 2014 13:17:28 GMT -6
Well the thing is since you cannot win by attacking. Your opponent could very easily, once they realize what you're running, play around it. Volcanic Queen can burn you right back you know! And it is easy for your opponent to stop Queen from burning them while making it so you cannot drop Lava Golem at the same time.
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Post by cardtheorist on Jun 19, 2014 16:32:17 GMT -6
Well the thing is since you cannot win by attacking. Your opponent could very easily, once they realize what you're running, play around it. Volcanic Queen can burn you right back you know! And it is easy for your opponent to stop Queen from burning them while making it so you cannot drop Lava Golem at the same time. True. However, Queen can be taken care of by Fiendish Chain or Mole. More than likely, if they do nothing, I'll win by deck out because of their searches and such. |
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Post by Drillwarrior on Jun 19, 2014 18:27:17 GMT -6
Interesting idea.
I'd like to test against this deck, see how it goes against someone who knows what you're trying to do.
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Post by cardtheorist on Jun 19, 2014 23:05:50 GMT -6
Interesting idea. I'd like to test against this deck, see how it goes against someone who knows what you're trying to do. Sure! I've had that before, one guy just didn't attack me at all, but got burned by golem and stuff. Because the thing is, they usually xyz/synchro golem/queen away, or attack while Forest is out to get rid of it, but there are so many. And, I love the reuse with grand mole, runs great. I need to take out defense draw, and things like dimension wall/Magic Cylinder, those are the cards I'm happy to see when I draw them. And it makes defense draw redundany, usually. I guess I could just use them as well in a chain, but a card with more utility could be used instead. Its funny, people bring out tons of high rank/level monsters, and I'm happy they do, it means more damage to them. And if anything summoned is a threat, I BHH/Warning/Golem/Queen it. |
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Post by oooxp on Jun 19, 2014 23:41:49 GMT -6
Hopefully you have a side deck unless it was built for fun.
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Post by ragda on Jun 19, 2014 23:59:03 GMT -6
The tags on this board use square brackets. So you'll need [ img ]link[ /img ] (without the spaces). If you're considering Dark Bribe, I'd suggest Wiretap first. Keeping the traps out of the grave can stymie the re-use of Breakthrough Skill and Skill Prisoner, and by avoiding their destruction, you also don't have to worry about Artifact Sanctum's second effect. I know the consistency of Pot of Duality isn't something that can be easily dismissed, but considering the function of the deck, wouldn't it hurt the surprise factor? Thank you about the img tags, I'll be using that! Just a suggestion, but maybe there should be a sticky somewhere about it, as well as other things for tags; a tag sticky. Just to let you know that if you don't use the quick reply (and using the full replay page) or are making a new thread, you can see icons to help format your post as needed. In it includes inserting pictures, links, videos, quotes, etc. |
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Post by cardtheorist on Jun 20, 2014 10:17:28 GMT -6
Thank you about the img tags, I'll be using that! Just a suggestion, but maybe there should be a sticky somewhere about it, as well as other things for tags; a tag sticky. Just to let you know that if you don't use the quick reply (and using the full replay page) or are making a new thread, you can see icons to help format your post as needed. In it includes inserting pictures, links, videos, quotes, etc. Ah, ok, thank you. Lets see this tag stuff: here is the new and improved version:  I'm thinking of making a side, MST and twister are obvious choices. |
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Post by Drillwarrior on Jun 20, 2014 11:10:17 GMT -6
I wonder if you could make it so you can side into Chain Burn... finish game two explosively.
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Post by ragda on Jun 20, 2014 11:13:40 GMT -6
Grand Mole is SUCH a trolly idea. Reuse them Golems/Queens to threaten the opponent over several turns. I'd wager that might even give you room if you need to cut down a Golem or a Queen or both just to fit in more main deck goodies.
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