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Post by Shadwen on Feb 25, 2014 18:20:14 GMT -6
 3 Des Lacooda 3 Golem Sentry 1 Medusa Worm 3 Mist Valley Falcon 2 Swarm of Locusts 3 Swarm of Scarabs 1 Book of Moon 3 Future Visions 3 Pot of Duality 1 Terraforming 1 Compulsory Evacuation Device 2 Dimensional Prison 3 Fiendish Chain 1 Macro Cosmos 2 Mirror Force 2 Black Horn of Heaven 1 Solemn Warning 3 Threatening Roar 2 Vanity's Emptiness |
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Post by Drillwarrior on Feb 25, 2014 18:28:54 GMT -6
Cheers Shad.
This honestly looks really fun, Vanity + Visions looks really nice. And Falcon + Visions to trap opposing monsters in the void is also pretty fun.
Have you ran into any conflicts with 3 Duality/2 Mistake? Or is it just the ol' "Don't play like a retard with Rai-Oh and Gadgets and you'll be fine" kind of thing?
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Post by Shadwen on Feb 25, 2014 18:38:32 GMT -6
Its the whole retard thing heh.
The deck is quite fun, allows for alot of lockouts.
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Post by Drillwarrior on Feb 25, 2014 18:42:10 GMT -6
Also I just realised Falcon can bump it back. Why only two emptiness? You have 0 ways to special summon, not even an extra deck.
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Post by Shadwen on Feb 25, 2014 19:07:37 GMT -6
The extra is generic rank 3's..i dont have that completed yet.
2 emptiness wont clog
I need room for 2 needle ceiling.
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Post by Drillwarrior on Feb 25, 2014 20:00:57 GMT -6
-1 mirror force? -1 Macro? Or -2 mirror force.
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Post by Shadwen on Feb 25, 2014 21:07:01 GMT -6
I feel the protective traps are just too heavily weighed on the deck. It needs them badly.
Macro is a failsafe idea...not sure how its gonna function, but hoping it gives me a decent game 1
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Post by Drillwarrior on Feb 26, 2014 8:47:35 GMT -6
If it needs the defensive traps a lot, then Macro and Mistake are what come to mind to cut.
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Post by BurnForGame on Feb 26, 2014 17:52:29 GMT -6
Honestly, with the Visions combo you can access, you shouldn't even need a pair of Needle Ceiling if the deck runs right. I could see one coming in over a D-Prison (to get rid of all their monsters instead of just one) but that's about it. After all, Roar can help give you the extra turn you need to set the fourth monster for Ceiling, or even set the third and bait them into summoning the fourth next turn.
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Post by Yoh Komori on Feb 26, 2014 18:58:28 GMT -6
personally I like the idea of ceiling in here, but BFG would know defensive deck nature better than I. With that said, I feel because of visions you SHOULD main ceiling, monsters returning can REALLY give you an edge.
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Post by BurnForGame on Feb 26, 2014 19:12:20 GMT -6
I like Ceiling in here as well. That's why I'm all for a single copy being added. It's a one-sided reset button for when the defenses are broken. I was just saying that if this particular deck has its defenses broken often enough to need double Ceiling, something more important than Ceiling is going wrong!
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Post by Yoh Komori on Feb 26, 2014 20:41:16 GMT -6
I like Ceiling in here as well. That's why I'm all for a single copy being added. It's a one-sided reset button for when the defenses are broken. I was just saying that if this particular deck has its defenses broken often enough to need double Ceiling, something more important than Ceiling is going wrong! touche', see this is why your my go to guy for defensive deck theory. you make it make sense. |
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Post by Shadwen on Feb 26, 2014 22:03:25 GMT -6
The double was just habit. What would I cut for a single copy then?
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Post by BurnForGame on Feb 27, 2014 12:29:25 GMT -6
Like I said earlier, D-Prison is what comes to mind as the best cut in this case...
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Post by Shadwen on Feb 27, 2014 12:54:15 GMT -6
Mistake to 1 wouldnt be a better cut? Or is mistake that good this format?
Edit: I cannot seem to get my hands on any mistakes. It might have to be replaced also.
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