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Post by g1nz0 on Dec 4, 2013 8:01:48 GMT -6
Since it seems there is not a lot of understanding on how Traditional is actually played, let's talk about what's actually good in Traditional.
First off: Where Arf Thou? + Magical Scientist. OTK's seem good; thoughts?
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Post by captainhowdy on Dec 16, 2013 14:46:18 GMT -6
That sounds quite interesting to say the least... tell me more
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Post by g1nz0 on Dec 16, 2013 15:19:39 GMT -6
Well the thread was intended to talk about actual quality decks/strategies that actually win in Traditional. If there is one format that really destroys the ability to create and be inventive, it's Traditional. There are a several decks that can win, just a few that outclass and outpace Everything else. Magical Scientist based decks do just that. The decks can run all the goodies that fan boys love like Chaos Emperor Dragon and all of the control cards if you would like, but it is also a deck, and possibly one of the best, that incorporates the new world of YGO and it's cards. Using Scientist you can put OTK's on board via Fusions which serve as connector plays to Xyz Monsters that deliver in Burn/Control/Removal/Etc.
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Post by captainhowdy on Dec 17, 2013 10:23:47 GMT -6
The sound of it makes me wish to drool... I want to maybe compete in traditional again, just not sure what the trad. "meta" really is... I play chaos in trad. because I love CED, and love some of the possibilities offered in that format.
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Post by bystander on Dec 19, 2013 16:21:18 GMT -6
Old School OTK deck with Magical Scientist.
So having those extra goodies really doesn't make any sense to me because you are moving away from the purpose of the deck. It is supposed to be once you get Catapult turtle and scientist on the field that is good game right there.
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Post by g1nz0 on Dec 20, 2013 3:06:34 GMT -6
Please, don't tell me about Traditional. I know it very well, and all of the decks that were good and why. Scientist OTK was brilliant back then because it was highly unfair. Which most of the best decks in Trad are. But - The cards you used back then were sub par, although it was just what you had. The thing is the deck DID lose a lot because if any part of the very extensive combo was interrupted, you lost. While I'm certain that deck in it's form of which you are talking about can still do what it did, the game has evolved and the card pool has become infinitely better and stronger. The way you would run Scientist now allows you to still have very dynamic OTK potential, but also still be able to play Yugioh in situations where your opponent has answers/response. Which there are many more of these days.
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Post by bystander on Dec 20, 2013 5:50:28 GMT -6
True on all points.
But there are ways to deal with those responses now too. Mind drain/Debunk takes care of things like Veiler, and Maxx "C". Dark bribe/Cursed seal of the forbidden spell, takes care traps and spells that can hurt you.
You don't have to look the banned card pool to find responses, all you need to do is look what is being used in advanced format and that will help here as well.
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Post by g1nz0 on Dec 21, 2013 11:14:35 GMT -6
None of those cards would make the cut for a Traditional Format main deck. The format is quite a bit different from Advanced format and deck building/playing changes due to it.
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Post by bystander on Dec 21, 2013 11:16:35 GMT -6
None of those cards would make the cut for a Traditional Format main deck. The format is quite a bit different from Advanced format and deck building/playing changes due to it. I have tested card like those and it was very surprising to other traddy format players. Shock factor does help a lot @ times. |
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Post by g1nz0 on Dec 21, 2013 11:24:22 GMT -6
What I am trying to convey, though, is that versus good players who understand the format, this will not work. You will leave the duel feeling like all you drew were paintbrushes when all you needed was a wrench.
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Post by bystander on Dec 21, 2013 11:28:42 GMT -6
What I am trying to convey, though, is that versus good players who understand the format, this will not work. You will leave the duel feeling like all you drew were paintbrushes when all you needed was a wrench. Most of the traddy players I play against are good players. Doing something outside what is expected does creates opening. |
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Post by g1nz0 on Dec 21, 2013 11:43:16 GMT -6
Not really. There are some very dominant themes in Traditional, and I have yet to see anyone post anything that would suggest there is an understanding of Traditional and how to best utilize the card pool.
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