Blue-Eyed Demise

[captainhowdy]

So i was looking over ye old Demise OTK and decided I wanted to update it for future purposes and this is the result

x3 Blue Eyes White Dragon
x3 Demise, The King of Armageddon
x3 White Stone of Legend
x2 Maiden with eyes of Blue
x3 Manju of the Ten Thousand hands
x3 Rabbi-Dragon

x3 Silver's Cry
x2 Advanced Ritual Art
x3 Trade - In
x3 MST
x1 Dark Hole
x3 Upstart Goblin
x2 Pot of Duality
x3 Megamorph

x3 Call of the Haunted
x1 Compulsory Evac Device
x1 Torrential Tribute
x1 BTH

So basically what you're supposed to do is use Adv Rit Art to dump blue eyes (or rabbi) for demise, blow field with demise use silver's cry to revive dragon, megamorph dragon and atk for game

[WhiteLightning1]

Why 3 Demise when you only have 2 ARA? Don't get me wrong I see the strategy in this deck and it could work brilliantly. The only flaw I really see in a Deck like this is Pot of Duality because of its side effect it can really slow you down because although it could get you the card you need you can't use your Demise OTK until the next turn, and from what I've heard about todays Meta your opponent could have either taken you down or prepared a strong defence.

They'd much be better off dropped for a couple more cards for your trap line up say a couple of D. Prisons. Also BTH would be better off as Solemn Warning to make Megamorph extra accessible. Champion's Vigilance can also be useful since your using LV8 Normal Dragons.

[captainhowdy]

I am going to replace the dualities, I decided to consider running End of the World as well, but the reason for 3 demise is to have a better chance of drawing it. I am trying to determine if Cards of consonance would be alright. Duality was mainly a place holder in this deck, and as for BTH I only put it in because I forgot about warning >.< Champion's Vigilance I've tested in past decks and find with it the same problems I came across when I ran divine punishment in my old agent deck, its far too situational.

[WhiteLightning1]

Why not run Contract with the Abyss instead? I see what you mean about having better chances of drawing it, it's because of the Manju's being able to get it for you, you wouldn't have to worry about drawing it. Cards of Consonance could work with 5 targets, the only flaw I see in it is the Maiden's you'll want on the field instead of using as discard material. Also about Champion's Vigilance, I can see where you're coming from but with Maiden with Eyes of Blue bringing BEWD to the field it would be less situational.

[captainhowdy]

I'm hoping more often than not to not have to use maiden, My main hope is to win by demise and a 6000 atk bewd, everything else is kinda side strategy. Manju is mainly here to get my ritual spell in hand for me. Contract does one thing I don't like much, it prevents me from ssing demise from grave should it get torrentialed or something where as demise's proper rit allows me to at least bring demise back if something should happen. I think duality will become Consonance though, since I can use them with white stone to help out.

[Ursiel]

WhiteLightning1 - There are only 3 targets for Consonance, Maidens are Spellcasters not Dragons.

I could see using OTK prevention over the Consonance. Swift Scarecrows or Battle Faders I think would do more for you than the Consonance. Or even Dragon Shrine to get say a Rabbi-dragon to grave then a WSoL to get a BEWD in hand for a Trade-In use. Also is another way to get the big Dragons in grave to make Silver's Cry live even without ARA into Demise.

[WhiteLightning1]

Contract with the Abyss does not prevent you from Special Summoning the Ritual Card through other means should it get destroyed, I looked up the rulings. I have something here that can help you, it's a Deck Template that focuses on summoning Demise, King of Armageddon. You can use it to get some ideas for your deck, if you start by taking out the Forbidden cards, then take out any cards you wouldn't use. You can then start to put in the Blue-Eyes cards and rebuild your Deck.

3x Mechanicalchaser
2x Renge, Gatekeeper of Dark World
3x Black Salvo
Chaos Sorcerer
Gorz the Emissary of Darkness
3x Manju of the Ten Thousand Hands
Sangan
3x Senju of the Ten Thousand Hands
3x Tragoedia
Dark Master - Zorc
3x Demise, King of Armageddon

Advanced Ritual Art
2x Allure of Darkness
2x Book of Moon
Brain Control
2x Contract with the Abyss
2x Gold Sarcophagus
Heavy Storm

3x Bottomless Trap Hole
Crush Card Virus
Torrential Tribute

Extra Deck

2x Armory Arm
3x Black Rose Dragon
Colossal Fighter
Dark Strike Fighter
Goyo Guardian
Iron Chain Dragon
2x Magical Android
Red Dragon Archfiend
Stardust Dragon
Thought Ruler Archfiend

[Ursiel]

These "templates" should really be updated or just give a skeleton to work from. Everyone of them I've seen so far is horribly outdated, they're not even the build that was considered the best version of them at the time. They certainly don't take into account newer cards or what is currently played for the deck themes.

As this one stands it is fine in theory, testing will give the best results to determine changes.

[WhiteLightning1]

I know the Templates are outdated, that's the idea of them. I give the outdated list to the person, and I let them get ideas from them, and use their own building skills to bring them up to date. With all the banned, outdated, and not useful cards it starts out with, you know which cards to drop.

In that Template above there are 10 cards that have to be dropped from the main deck due to restrictions, so you've now got space for 10 extra cards, such as a 2nd Advanced Ritual Art, Megamorph, Trade-In etc. Then think about the remaining cards and changing them for cards that help the Deck. e.g. drop the 3 Mechanicalchaser's for 3 BEWD, and the 2 Renge's for 2 Rabidragons. Gorz and Tragoedia can be good for protection. Senju can be dropped for Maiden with Eyes of Blue, and Black Salvo can be dropped for The White Stone of Legend.

[Ursiel]

Which is why I mentioned to just give skeleton lists, bare minimums of what the deck needs. Doing all that based off your template is essentially what he did without it.

[WhiteLightning1]

Oh I see what you mean. It's just the reason I give the full Template is because I find it easier to find new ideas that way. By first taking out the restricted stuff, then building it up piece by piece.

[Yoh Komori]

-1 demise
-3 rabbidragon
-1 white stone

+1 paladian of white dragon/relinquished/chu'chillian the awakened
+2 divine dragon ragnarock/flamvell guard(which ever matches the low level monster ritual you deck 1 of)
+2 king of the swamp

-1 silver's cry
-3 megamorph

+2 preperation of the rights
+2 grissaille gaol (trap card, really bad ass in ritual/tribute decks)

[Ursiel]

You just told him to cut 4 of his Trade-In targets. As well as add in 2 monsters that do nothing for his end game, the King of the Swamps. They are fusion substitute and Poly search cards, when he has no way to fusion summon. I could see dropping some of what you suggested though, and the Grissaille would be epic here.

[captainhowdy]

The biggest thing when it came to this deck was, making due with what I could get from 3 BEWD structures when able and then ordering a few other things to make something different than whats commonly being used.

[Ursiel]

Sounds reasonable, but do look into Grisaille. Its a rare out of SHSP and does such wonderful things for the decks that can support it.