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Post by ライトロード on Sept 28, 2014 15:49:44 GMT -6
Forbidden: Black Luster Soldier - Envoy of the Beginning Vanity's Emptiness
Limited: Artifact Sanctum Cold Wave Elemental Hero Stratos Dragons Ravine Phoenix Wing Wind Blast Qliphort Tool Saqlifice Skill Drain Summoner's Art
Semi-Limited: Book of Moon Bottomless Trap Hole Brotherhood of the Fire Fist - Spirit Compulsory Evacuation Device Gladiator Beast Bestiari Honest
Unlimited: Blackwing - Gale the Whirlwind Glow-Up Bulb Gorz the Emissary of Darkness
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Post by troza on Sept 28, 2014 23:35:28 GMT -6
Wow... this is starting early. I don't see why do you want skill drain on the limited list
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Post by bystander on Sept 29, 2014 14:31:55 GMT -6
He wants Skill Drain limited because of Qlipoths. Personally if the QKiller/Drain combo is so lethal Konmai should limit QKiller along with Tool. They have moved against broken cards from new sets quickly before. FF Spirit comes to mind.
IMO this list is insanely salty.
RotA gust got to 3, they aren't going put a limit on it straight after they unlimit RotA. Konami has been moving searcher spells off the list recently. They aren't aren't going to go against this move. RotA is going to be @3 for awhile, you are just going to have to deal with it.
I do want Stratos back, I don't see Konami doing until right before or after the HERO Structure release. I even have a feeling this card may get an errata with a once per turn clause.
What have mermails been doing in the recent meta? Nothing. No hit here. Even though this card does deserve one, unless this deck does something against the big 3 in the next format, nothing from this deck is getting hit.
Stellarnova Alpha really depends on what Tellarknight does post NECH. A lot of people are pretty much thinking they have hit their peak already and NK will replace them.
Unless Artifacts/Hands do something major in the next format I don't see a hit coming. Again even though this card deserves one, Ignition should also pick up a hit too.
Shadow Games, Construct, and Winda will probably be limited.
I really don't want to deal with FF decks again, Spirit way is too good in them.
TCG Konami gave us Raigeki over a second TT. I wouldn't mind this happening, but Raigeki would have to banned again for this to happen.
Everyone has been calling for BoM and Beastiari to be semi'd for the past few lists. I have serious doubt Konami is going to give us either. BoM @ 2 will be way too good with Dolls around. As for Beastiari, there is a reason why this card was placed on the list, tagging this in and out can too easily clear the field allowing for OTK to be set up. Plus with all the cards effect that activate in the grave do you really think this a such a good idea.
TGU @2 is pretty much a forgone conclusion.
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Post by troza on Sept 30, 2014 8:41:03 GMT -6
I hope not about TGU. I know that BA benefit a lot from it, it might make them benefit even more but, at the same time, it is the only card that it is worth negating with Veiler and stuff like that. I hope not cause I need them in my agents... not for logical reasons
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Post by bystander on Sept 30, 2014 9:17:26 GMT -6
You can get away with running 2 Scarm and 2 TGU or 1 Scarm, 1 TBU, 2 TGU if this happens.
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Post by troza on Sept 30, 2014 9:46:22 GMT -6
Nah... that way things won't work as well. You need to get tour guide first. not at second and, even less, as the third card on the deck. 2 Scarm might do the trick but, even so, that's a wasted monster because the second one will be useless unless you go into number 49 or I start playing more Pot of Dichotomies in the deck
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Post by bystander on Sept 30, 2014 12:50:10 GMT -6
#49 is pretty fun.
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Post by ライトロード on Oct 16, 2014 18:43:46 GMT -6
Updated.
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Post by soup on Oct 16, 2014 19:34:39 GMT -6
TGU at 1??? And I am curious why Hunter needs banned? I wasn't playing during windups.
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Post by troza on Oct 17, 2014 2:03:04 GMT -6
And, by the way, Vanity's emptiness at 1 is good enough. But here I don't have stardust spark...
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Post by bystander on Oct 17, 2014 8:19:22 GMT -6
I don't see the need to hit Emptiness to 1. I can see it getting a semi @ the worst.
However, I got this feeling if Konami doesn't touch Emptiness or any other floodgates on the next list, they are never going to touch them. Then certain players are just going to have to deal with it or quit. These cards are doing what they are designed to do. They are control cards they allow one player to control the other players actions, they aren't invincible and have their weaknesses. IMO players should stop whining about these cards and figure out how to get around them.
Killer needs to be banned. A card that is unaffected by spell/traps or monsters effects from monsters with lower level/rank is broken, Konami has banned broken acrds right after there release too, just saying. Tool I can see going to 1 but with out Killer in the deck it would be safe to keep it @2. With no Killer the Qliphort deck is pretty balanced and easily dealt with. A ban on Killer will also allow Skill Drain to stay @ multiples and there are many ways to deal with it in the game currently.
There is also a new Qliphort monster in Secrets of Evolution with a similar no monster effect clause on it. It is also a pendulum monster too, so like the other pendulums in this archetype it has the no tribute level/att modification effect as well making it much easier to deal with.
The wind-up hunter getting a ban is because there is new wind-up support coming our way. Just because a new set is giving an older archetype new support doesn't mean that these new cards will be any good or used. A lot people thought hunter was the issue in the loop, no, Konami got that hit right when they went after Zenmaity.
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Post by elvisbeck on Oct 17, 2014 14:12:13 GMT -6
Super Polymerization forbidden? No way! However, I do agree that Stratos should be limited. That way, it can start it's comeback.
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Post by ライトロード on Oct 17, 2014 17:19:51 GMT -6
Super Polymerization forbidden? No way! However, I do agree that Stratos should be limited. That way, it can start it's comeback. Speed 4 advantage generating generic fusion card. Yeah, no. Card needs to go.
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Post by elvisbeck on Oct 17, 2014 17:31:26 GMT -6
I still think it should stay.
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Post by troza on Oct 18, 2014 2:53:44 GMT -6
Super Polymerization forbidden? No way! However, I do agree that Stratos should be limited. That way, it can start it's comeback. Speed 4 advantage generating generic fusion card. Yeah, no. Card needs to go. I agree with the argument... if there is a deck that can just take advantage of that card against anyone at anytime in the duel, it surelly must go.
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