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Post by JerkJerk on Nov 8, 2013 12:50:49 GMT -6
Never said it was the problem, just a problem. Multiple Draco is an issue. I feel limiting it is a fair solution. But then killing all the big dragons is more of the problem.
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Post by Ursiel on Nov 8, 2013 14:32:29 GMT -6
I'm of the mind that if the support for the dragons was taken away the deck wouldn't be an issue either. But we will have to see which way Konami leans come the next F&L list.
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Post by g1nz0 on Nov 9, 2013 4:51:14 GMT -6
Never said it was the problem, just a problem. Multiple Draco is an issue. I just don't see it getting hit, but we will see though.
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Post by Ursiel on Nov 9, 2013 10:46:18 GMT -6
Yes we will.
Konami is gonna flip tables on us again. No damn clue what will land on the list or miss it completely. Predicting their thought process has never been more difficult.
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Post by g1nz0 on Nov 9, 2013 17:01:03 GMT -6
You really think they are going to go into a 40+ card change again?
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Post by Ursiel on Nov 9, 2013 19:51:45 GMT -6
Not 40 (that was insane btw) but I don't believe it will be things that are expected. I would guess at least 40% of the list will end with people asking "WTF?".
Anyone trying the Mythic Dragons in this? One or both? If both what changes have been made to your extra deck?
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Post by g1nz0 on Nov 9, 2013 20:16:29 GMT -6
A generic take on it for you.
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Post by Ursiel on Nov 9, 2013 20:51:33 GMT -6
And there is why Rulers suck atm. With very few exceptions that is within 8 cards of the version I put up earlier. The deck even when getting changed to accommodate new ideas stays very similar to what it already is.
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Post by troza on Nov 11, 2013 9:01:12 GMT -6
One question... do you think mistake will make a big impact against dragons? I know that it might do agaist Patrick Hoban's version with the dragunities... but against the debris version... will it be annoying?
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Post by Ursiel on Nov 11, 2013 17:18:50 GMT -6
It could definitely become annoying, the real issue would be whether or not Rulers could make, or have, an answer to it before it really begins to hurt the deck.
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Post by g1nz0 on Nov 11, 2013 20:50:23 GMT -6
It's definitely going to hurt Dragons in general, but you are right that it should hurt Dragunity Ruler more so. I think the deck's ability to play the game regardless of pace will help to mitigate this a bit, but there is still the chance that in any given game the card being active could potentially win the game much like Iron Wall/Emptiness/Gozen. They force the Dragon player to have the answer, or get to it quick.
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Post by troza on Nov 12, 2013 4:01:32 GMT -6
Humm... the thing is... with 3 MST on the side decks of almost every dragon ruler player and the crazy draw power of Dragon Rulers with some dragunities (dragunity rulers would have more dragunities, no?) - 3x upstart goblin, 3x Reckless Greed, 2x Cards of consonance... and, if needed, we can use Sacred Sword... as a 2 for 2 - this card must be well played.
One question... when we activate Ravine's eff... when do we choose wich effect do we use? Can we stop a search by flipping that card or does the user has the chance to change te effect to dump a dragon into the graveyard?
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Post by Ursiel on Nov 12, 2013 10:01:01 GMT -6
IIrc the Ravine player has to announce which of the effects is being activated when the cost is paid. So if they said add to hand Mistake can be chained and prevent it.
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Post by troza on Nov 13, 2013 5:29:51 GMT -6
IIrc the Ravine player has to announce which of the effects is being activated when the cost is paid. So if they said add to hand Mistake can be chained and prevent it. Thanks
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Post by Ursiel on Nov 13, 2013 11:30:36 GMT -6
Anyone trying Kidmodo Dragon? I'm thinking about swapping Trigon for it. Just not sure yet.
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